353: Understanding Palestine and How You Can Help Stop the Genocide: Matt Bowles Interviewed on the Going Places Podcast

Episode Summary

Matt Bowles is interviewed by Yulia Denisyuk about Palestine and action items you can take to help stop the genocide. In this special episode, The Maverick Show host Matt Bowles is interviewed on the Going Places podcast about his 25 years of Palestine solidarity work. He shares his own activist trajectory and  reflects on the state of the Palestine solidarity movement today in response to the live-streamed genocide.  He then discusses the history of Israeli colonialism, provides an analysis of the power asymmetry at the root of the conflict, and unpacks dominant framing that is used to obfuscate the unjust power dynamics.  Matt explains how to respond to claims like “it’s complicated” and “Israel has a right to defend itself”.  He also discusses the history of Zionism, gives examples of anti-semitic support for the Zionist movement, and explains the role of U.S. foreign policy in supporting Israel and providing an atmosphere of impunity for their war crimes. Finally, Matt provides concrete action items that you can take to help stop the genocide and discusses the various arenas where we have leverage to exert pressure—including political, economic, legal, diplomatic, and disrupting the genocide supply chain through non-violent direct action.  Matt and Yulia conclude by discussing hope for the future and why Gaza will change the world.

 

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Matt Bowles

Matt Bowles is the host of The Maverick Show podcast where he interviews today’s most interesting remote entrepreneurs and world travelers every week.  He co-founded Maverick Investor Group in 2007 as a fully-remote real estate brokerage to help people buy cash-flowing rental properties in the best U.S. real estate markets, regardless of where they live.  He has been featured in major national media and was named one of the “Top 50 Real Estate Opinion Makers and Market Leaders”. Matt and his co-founders at Maverick have helped individual real estate investors buy over $100 million in residential investment property across 15 U.S. States. He has been a full-time digital nomad with no permanent base since 2013 and has run his company from over 70 countries on 6 continents.  Matt is a proponent of “stylish minimalism” and travels the world through multiple climates with carry-on luggage only.  He is also a sought-after speaker and has delivered keynote addresses at conferences around the world, ranging from the Nomad Summit in Chiang Mai to the Bansko NomadFest in Bulgaria to the Nomads BA conference in Buenos Aires to the Extraordinary Travel Festival in Bangkok.  He is regularly interviewed by international media on topics relating to real estate investing, location-independent entrepreneurship, and long-term world travel and was also featured in the book “Digital Nomads for Dummies”.

What You'll Learn
  • The history of the Zionist colonial project leading up to the genocide against the Palestinians
  • How to respond to claims like “Israel has a right to defend itself” and “it’s complicated”
  • Specific actions steps you can take today to help stop the genocide in Gaza
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[0:44] Introducing This Episode

[2:40] Introducing Matt Bowles and This Episode

[6:05] How Matt and Yulia met

[7:50] Palestine Activism Today Compared with the Last 25 Years

[10:07] Reflections on Political Awareness and Solidarity Both When Traveling and Not

[13:32] Matt’s Activist Background and Trajectory

[18:50] The Impact of a Live Streamed Genocide on Social Media

[21:22] Israeli Colonialism and Power Asymmetry in Palestine

[24:22] Dominant Framing and Attempts to Obfuscate the Conflict Dynamics

[31:20] Responding to the “It’s Complicated” Objection

[33:27] What International Law Says about the Claim that “Israel Has a Right to Defend Itself”

[38:31] The Zionist Movement Before the Founding of Israel

[40:53] Anti-Semitic Support for the Zionist Movement

[42:14] U.S. Foreign Policy towards Israel since 1967

[43:43] Palestinian Non-Violent Resistance

[46:38] The Reason for Israel’s Lack of Accountability 

[48:30] Connections between Institutions of State Violence in the U.S. and Israel

[50:08] What We All Can Do to Help Stop the Genocide in Palestine

[52:29] Applying Pressure in the Political Arena

[56:45] Exerting Economic and Financial Pressure to Help Stop the Genocide in Palestine

[58:40] Disrupting the Genocide Supply Chain

[59:42] Supporting Non-Violent Direct Actions to End the Genocide

[1:00:21] Legal Challenges to Israel’s Genocide

[1:01:18] Isolating Israel as a Pariah State

[1:02:44] Different Ways that You Can Help Stop the Genocide

[1:07:36] Hope for the Future and Why Gaza Will Change the World